SurfaceAgentX2Zero
1:36 Thu Sep 10
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Hmmm. Here's an example - there are far worse.
Hammer and Pickle 11:15 Tue Sep 8
'The problem is the UK has nothing sensible to put on the table while the Eurosceptics define the agenda with their populism.'
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Hammer and Pickle
1:17 Thu Sep 10
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero 10:56 Thu Sep 10
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The great thing about claiming you don't understand someone is you can try to discredit them as "incomprehensible" without addressing the content of what they have said.
However, if it turns out that what they said was actually perfectly simple, then you end up looking rather thick. This is what is happening here.
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harold
11:38 Thu Sep 10
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http://chersonandmolschky.com/2013/10/02/goalofmuslimimmigration/
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SurfaceAgentX2Zero
10:56 Thu Sep 10
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Hammer and Pickle 6:13 Wed Sep 9
'Can't help you with that I'm afraid. It's just a point of view and I'm not trying to say I'm a better person than anyone for having it.'
You misunderstand. Your post were always self-serving and plain wrong-headed, but now they are completely unintelligible.
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Hammer and Pickle
10:53 Wed Sep 9
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What has happened to you Mike Oxsaw?
You were a fine poster in your day.
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Mike Oxsaw
10:48 Wed Sep 9
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After8 6:06 Wed Sep 9
The vote may well be happening but they'll tie in voting to leave with voting to lower the age of consent to 3 - 2-4-1, vote for one, get the other free,
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Hammer and Pickle
6:13 Wed Sep 9
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Far Cough 6:04 Wed Sep 9
Really?
Can't help you with that I'm afraid. It's just a point of view and I'm not trying to say I'm a better person than anyone for having it.
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After8
6:06 Wed Sep 9
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RBshorty, you're simply wrong, the vote is happening.
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Far Cough
6:04 Wed Sep 9
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Pickle old bean, your posts are becoming more and more undecipherable, sad to see really
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Hammer and Pickle
5:57 Wed Sep 9
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This is the way I see it.
You have been persuaded to think of Europe like it was a player who has handed in a transfer request, the club has accepted it and has gone to a better club. He's shit you say - always has been always will. The better he was, the more important it is to persuade yourself he was shit.
This has what has happened with most of the popular culture discourse on Europe. People can talk about its strengths or the dangers of leaving it till they are blue in the face, but you won't have it. You have been led to believe it has been denied you, so you are better off classifying it in the box marked "shit".
It's all very sad really.
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Far Cough
5:54 Wed Sep 9
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New York
Hong Kong
Tokyo
???
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Hermit Road
5:48 Wed Sep 9
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The EU is built on fear. This was understandable when people feared another war in Europe, and the EU in its original incarnation wasn't a bad idea. It created better conditions for trade and fostered closer links. Now though, the only reason for it continuing to exist in its bloated, autocratic state, is that there would be a apocalypse if we left.
I don't buy the fear driven justification. Take the one used here earlier. The City of London will collapse if we leave the EU, clearly this must be true because there are no other major financial centres outside the EU are there?
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RBshorty
5:39 Wed Sep 9
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We ain't going to get a vote on it. Dave and his chums will make sure of that.So i wouldn't get worked up about it.
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riosleftsock
5:32 Wed Sep 9
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Yes, lots of Muslims.
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Swiss.
5:32 Wed Sep 9
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Far Clough joining Schengen will defeat the object of controlling immigration so we won't join.
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Far Cough
5:22 Wed Sep 9
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You still have to go through passport control don't you?
In any case Schengen of which we're not a part of, will still be valid whether we're in the EU or not
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Mike Oxsaw
4:08 Wed Sep 9
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Swiss. 3:26 Wed Sep 9
Don't be such a fucking drama queen: visitors perceived as likely to be bringing wealth INTO any particular state will be fast-tracked. Government know on which side their bread's buttered.
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13 Brentford Rd
3:30 Wed Sep 9
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Yep but not queing maybe once a year at passport control is not gonna convince me that the EU is a good thing.
I'm taking all the negatives of leaving as scaremongering until I see some proof.
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Swiss.
3:26 Wed Sep 9
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Brentford
Do you ever travel to other EU countries like Spain, France or Greece?. Welcome to the long queue in Passport Control mate.
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13 Brentford Rd
3:19 Wed Sep 9
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Unless someone can illustrate accurately in detail just how this will effect our economy and all the other fabled negatives of leaving the EU then I will still vote out.
Initially the EU was just a trading block not the current beast super state with layers of bureaucratic regulations and laws that are enforced on us. No one here voted for this mess.
Much like the general election there is a glaring lack of detail in what is claimed by those with a vested interest. Much is said but very little explained and verified, we are being treated like plebs and expected to just accept what we are told.
So until I am no longer patronised I will vote to leave as not one person or organisation to date has laid out the pros and cons properly so that I can make an informed decision.
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Mike Oxsaw
2:58 Wed Sep 9
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The EU as an organisational structure is so far past it's "best before" date that the best (probably only positive) thing for it is Euthanasia and a complete fresh start.
It was conceived in the 1950s and, like all monolithic public organisations is utterly resistant to change (unless the change proposer is internal and can turn a quick buck...sorry, Euro.. in doing so).
All this bollocks about upping sticks and fucking off for a few days, how the fuck is THAT still accepted by the member states in today's environment? (Oh, yeah, wonga-wonga expense claims and free jollies for the families). For fuck's sake, stay put, turn one of the compounds into homes for refugees and get that warm. Eurodoingsomething glow.
I bet, if you dig deep enough you'll find that people in the EU above a certain rank are allowed, by default, to claim the cost of employing a typist...and that the EU maintains a substantial, multi-lingual typing pool just in case someone, somewhere can't find an expensive enough typist in the real world.
19th century administration for a 21st century commercial world. C'est la vie, N'est Pas?
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